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Originally Posted by volvo264
The point nevertheless stands bobnat my rather naive, ill mannered friend that he wants to charge $550/month for a service without any prior demonstration of skills or trading knowledge. Also look carfully at what I said. I didnt say he was a cheat I said he "may" be. My contention remains that if someone who has no proven trading skill wants to charge a ridiculously high $550 for their service then that is not a particularly equitable signal service. I have actually been through his posts and I dont see any kind of professional standard of trading ability whatsoever. Thats the proof. If he had that high level of skill, it would be evident in his posts which started in 2003. To take this argument further, the charge of a signal service should ideally be linked with the skill or quality of a trader and their trading performance and I dont see that happening here. Paying $550/month for a service which has no apparent credibility does not seem in any way equitable. Unfortunately there are plenty of fraudsters in the forex business and only a fool would take everything at face value.
Anyway, irrespective of what you and I think, where are the user opinions? He said he had 98 of them. Why have they kept quiet if indeed they exist at all? When stormygold is criticised his subscribers become very vocal. Where are the 98 subscribers of truville? Did they all become mute at the same time?
So when one adds racism to the above mix of criticisms I just dont see the behaviour of a professional signal seller evident from truville. When respected traders such as teamforex or stormygold started up in business they didnt behave like this at all. It was quite obvious they were knowledgable traders before they even charged a penny. Hence my original point stands in its entirety. Now of course if truville wants to demonstrate his trading excellence using collective2 or indeed moneytec I will humbly withdraw all I have said. But until he does my above concerns still stand.
And yes his deleted post was clearly racist and full of historically incorrect nonsense which you clearly didnt pick up on (so much for your so called academic experience) . Hence the flood of complaints about his posts which clearly many people found racially offensive. Truvilles comments were deliberately offensive and you know it. Bobnat you need to think a little more independently rather than getting carried away with superfical politics and propaganda. If you really had an intellectual mind (which you obviously dont) you would realise you just can't tar everyone with the same brush. It creates bitterness, resentment, anger and in any case its not as if we in the west are a bunch of angels although I do think we are much more advanced in numerous fields than the contentious countries in question.
Finally bob, as I qualified as a research academic (with both undergraduate and posgraduate research qualifications from a leading university) and now own several businesses I can honestly say I have seen all kinds of people, and I can tell you that the kind of human hatred that you appear to be tolerating is really a game for idiots. One cant take human hatred and and legitimise it by covering it in pseudo-facts, half-truths and pseudo-academic language. That fools nobody. Hatred is hatred irrespective of the false justifications one uses as an excuse to express it.
I am very sorry bob for your emotional, illiterate response but we are all entitled to one from time to time; especially you 
PS With so many projects on the go I have better things to do than argue with individuals who are deliberately being mean-minded and hurtful . Hence I wont take this any further as I have no time to spend on such lowlife. Nevertheless my concerns over truvilles alleged signal service still stand. I will leave the torch for someone else to carry from this point onwards and wont respond any further as I have said my piece. |
Qualified research academic? Then how about showing this qualified academic some emperical evidence that you are not wagering for a free
demo? Much less, listing the trading performance of Truville's customers for the public view. Do you realize that you are asking Truville to commit a felony,.. much less compromise his client trust?
You also talk about detesting racism. I find this amusing considering you are comming from a culture with a 5 tier caste system for which intermarriage is considered taboo. And truville is from a country that outlawed slavery only 140 years ago(as am I). We could throw stones at the scars of our past all day. Lets get to the point.
As far as you not liking signal sellers,...I agree 100%.
Where we differ is that I think anyone who buys them deserves what they get.Period.
I have stated it before, and I will state it again, "There is no such thing as a genius,...only a person with an acute intelectual curiosity for the matter at hand."
We are never done learning and never will be. Those who buy signals ARE done learning.
Our Intelectual curiosity is the very making of our being. To surrender it is to surrender all that we are. Considering this, I think it is best that the signal buyers keep their information private.( and may posterity forget that they were among us),... and that those demanding the evidence focus their curiosities on personal perfection.(Including me)
Regards
PSY