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[Batcheler]

Originally Posted by FXLearning

Jerry,

Your signal today is confusing. "EURUSD, 'Stay' Long " and
"USDJPY, that Long turns out is ok"

The way I am understanding your signal is buy the Euro for EURUSD and buy the dollar for USDJPY.

You are basically without a position since you are doing the opposite on both.

Regards,

FXL

I looked it over, and positions are as layed-out above AND per what you say "The way I am understanding your signal is buy the Euro for EURUSD and buy the dollar for USDJPY."

EURUSD hit Stop_Loss, and since at 5:30pmEST eNNya says "stay Long" still, one has to OPEN a Long, same direction, DESPITE it having been hit by such direction prior. (i.e., eNNya CAN learn from things, of course)

For USDJPY, Stop_Loss hit here too from a Short position, but here eNNya wants (old or new modeling) a different direction from original, i.e., go Long.

Have good weekend all, let your platform freeze the curve Friday 5pmEST and stay in those positions during, and then next Sigs 5:30/6pmEST Sunday for that re-opening.

[Batcheler]

RE: ongoing perfecting engineering project, in light of that this is that, I'm querying you all if anyone is knowledgeable in the econ-calendar. Perhaps I can have performance made even better by having morning pro-or-counter-econ expectations entered into a table so that by next modeling in afternoon eNNya could digest that data too to our benefit. Anyone out there can help in this area with your experience let me know. If some can help, then it shortens such trails. We probably don't need such totally, but every little bit eNNya can digest to benefit of seeing ahead is good.
Thank you.

[FXLearning]

Jerry,

Try the original data time series and normalize it.

Regards,

FXL

[Batcheler]

agasp with shocking marvels!:
In the half year I been regularly using Tradecision I've never been witness to the kind of marvels I'm seeing now, they are just incredible. I am an hour after comimg home from work and made even more discoveries, as if yesterday's discoveries via burning-the-candle-at-both-ends weren't enough! Would you believe trading 98% EURUSD & 92% USDJPY directional accuracy and the once or twice doing a loss in the 4 years back-test is puny!? Would you believe staying out of trades during these more tumultuous times? Looked at the 4 years on USDJPY and the one dip during a Long ~ 3-3/4-yr-ago is 300 pips, no stop_out, it holds its position, and goes back above zero and rises in that Long! Might mean we need to do 5% ($2K initial equity with 1 mini) money-management so that 300-pips is effectively half, risk-wise, maybe not too, but thought I'd share you current work I'm doing as its revelatory. It started with concern yesterday over USDJPY perfoprmance, added a handful of advanced TAs to hopper and things looked more responsive around the corners, the joy spread to applying discoveries to EURUSD also! Now this morning I find their trigger-levels tech (check radio-button) "after training" is more advanced and hot! I right away used the setting "Low" for number of trades desired and find it went to levels to cut-out of trading during rocky times yet still yield around 1000 pips gain per quarter!, what a dream come true! Hmmm, maybe I should try medium setting too so I get a bit more response on the dip during that long! Well, you get idea, greater marvels are essentially here and before I get some sleep this morning thought I'd at least rattle the good news out to you. Will keep you informed as to progress and what we'll do to instigate asap!

[Batcheler]

YES! Moderate setting for number of trades is FANTASTIC! On EURUSD I see a dip of couple hundred pips before it continues in right direction per eNNya. Folks, we may be a stop_less joint! If I ever sell signals (not you folks, you got it free, open & open-ended, see this subject and why in Intro+FAQ) as separate biz activity it might be called www.unleashthestops.com (just a thought for fun, not that that is my final selection, just thinking out loud) as I'm not seeing reasons to have them, even with 10% money-management now. Even those dips up to 300 disappeard on moderate-#-trades setting, so man!

Currently we are in correct trades for both pairs, just so happens. Do we dare throw away the stops? That's what eNNya's showing! Hard to believe as it is! Hey, it's only a demo (like that scary movie "its only a movie"), so yea, especially since equity built up from the initial of a Thou, so, goin' for it folks, removing my stops, unheard of in this biz!!!! Man, my words of "marvel" in last post looks like the case! Won't eBroker-Platform houses have THEIR eyeballs popping-out seeing a bunch of us go "look ma, super gains, no hands on the brakes!" for years! LOL

OK folks, it just isn't ONLY due to me, I owe it to those TD software folks for very recent excellence, which only now fully reveals their underlying genius with neural nets. Shall email them some long overdue praise!

I'm wondering now if this thread is becoming historic.

[firedave]

Hi Jerry, glad to hear those great news. Are you ready to officially launch the site ? Good luck to you buddy

[Batcheler]

hi Dave, no, this place remains free w/ hints of donations for however time into far-flung future I can. Just maybe number of those getting on my list MAY be limited, at which point I don't post signals here anymore. But lets get mucho more visitors here first. Those extra special vitamins are starting to look all the more important now.

[FXLearning]

Jerry,

By the way the Eur/USD signal was good, but the USD/JPY did not.

Euro went up from a low of 1.2780 to 1.2941.
JPY went down from a high of 108.55 to a low of 107.48.

On the other hand, I am glad you managed to find a new set of TA's for the "hungry" neurons.

With regards to your Economic calendar. You might want to download data on economic time series. If your program allows it, you should be able to enter a zero for all times when no new data is available. Consult with your software developer.

In addition, you should try to normalize these economic time series (in addition to other interesting data manipulations) before feeding it to the "starving" neuron nets.

[Batcheler]

I just closed USDJPY's buy not because it was -$50 at this mention, but because any dips near end of longer term trade are not part of the plan (its like entering a trade near end of long term of already having scooped up much, which WE haven't, just the model shows as having done so if we had been following it). So those kind of dips might spell bad news with no stops, so I'm out! We shall await NEW open trade signal in the coming trade days ahead. (part of new plan, closes do not always mean open new one)

EURUSD's buy is a different good story! +107 at this writing, A-N-D, this new trade in the model is only since 4/5, so hang on to this one!

OK?

[Batcheler]

Originally Posted by FXLearning

Jerry,

By the way the Eur/USD signal was good, but the USD/JPY did not.

Euro went up from a low of 1.2780 to 1.2941.
JPY went down from a high of 108.55 to a low of 107.48.

On the other hand, I am glad you managed to find a new set of TA's for the "hungry" neurons.

With regards to your Economic calendar. You might want to download data on economic time series. If your program allows it, you should be able to enter a zero for all times when no new data is available. Consult with your software developer.

In addition, you should try to normalize these economic time series (in addition to other interesting data manipulations) before feeding it to the "starving" neuron nets.

You've worked with NNs before fxlearning? Where might you point me for such downloadable econ time series? What would you consider are the FEW main econs of interest? You like a good econ calendar somewhere? (as you can see, my initial stabs in this interest has been usually disappointing) Tell me more, later if you wish, by email form, what you mean by normalize. That is the major reason search takes ~ 20 minutes is I'm doing a long EMA(P) thru a -7 to +7 around last good selection as a normalizing "thing".
However, its seriously looking now like I won't need this additional path as these hungry neurons are finally satiated, surprisingly, buuuut.......my neurons are still hungry! lol (i.e., game for continued interest)

[kbnor]

Jerry, what initial capital would you recommend on an account if one were to start with just 1 mini-lot on EURUSD only - if one were to have no stops, using eNNya's signals? USD 2,500? Thanks for a very interesting thread!

[Batcheler]

Originally Posted by kbnor

Jerry, what initial capital would you recommend on an account if one were to start with just 1 mini-lot on EURUSD only - if one were to have no stops, using eNNya's signals? USD 2,500? Thanks for a very interesting thread!

At first I did think $2K would be better, but at moderate number of trades setting seems even $1K is still ok. HOWEVER, let's all cool our heels a bit and relax looking at demo performance once again because although this means of using TD has proven out and we're talking double improvements via more TAs and fine thresholds on such, still, its just about hard to believe, ain't it? So let's give it a month or two ride around the block and "see how the new car rides". I'm sure most of you agree. If someone following here slips-up with real dough this would be sad scene where we have slippin'-up hollerin' folks, and none of us want that, so a relaxing ride and perusing the new country scenary is in order, what say you? (has anyone here been doin' real account, never asked?) Forex is particularly flybait for "penny-wise and pound-foolish" (otherwise there wouldn't be a 1.2B liquid market like it is, so let's not have me be a big wart behind the screen and we make sure operating live with this incredible shiny new-wheels is going to be ok, what say you?

[Batcheler]

Further good news on this burning midnite oil trail!:

Remembered initial research means of looking at training results AROUND prospective trade days of prior year AS IF I don't know data-bars coming. This brings super confidence w/o having to W-A-I-T one to two months DRAGGING ourselves thru day by day bars in "hope" things will still look good......its a way to shortcut this and act on past chart AS IF one was there in those prior times. Got to tell ya, did as much as I can for now, getting tired and I still have to go to work tonite, but its looking real good folks! Even further good news is the walk-forwards respond better than before (well DUH! no wonder with all that extra TA weight! LOL) and guess what surprise that means? NO MORE HALF HOUR WAITING! Wooooo!!! Ehhh??? At first tries (its so slow a paper means to check out, got to do some more over weekend!) it seems walk-forward test for time or year after where I'm starting from, 3/4/04, things look real good. So PROBABLY no half hour ordeal, just pop-in the data and change dates in a panel and hit walk-forward, boom, the new info...no change or new info! Even times I think I'll be training will be in middle of long term trades or after a trade cut-out or change (can be either one, a close or a close-and-open in other direction).....AND THOSE will be done BEHIND THE SCENES HERE, not before I give you trade info asap! eh? lol

So that's way its shaping-up so far, will keep you posted because these things do require much meditation and trial-'n-tribulation, so hang in there, we're gettin' there!

[Idoogye]

Whoo-eee! Irie, mon!

Jerry, you are en fuego!

I've been following your work here since you began posting, and it appears you truly are putting together something exceptional. So, please don't burn yourself out!

I feel this may be just the beginning of an extraordinary expedition into previously "uncharted" trading territory. May we enjoy a long and prosperous exploration together, and may your efforts and your ingenuity be richly rewarded! Thank you for inviting us to join you, and

Cheers!

I-Doogye

[Batcheler]

Originally Posted by Idoogye

Whoo-eee!

Jerry, you are en fuego!

I've been following your work here since you began posting, and it appears you truly are putting together something exceptional. Please don't burn yourself out!

I feel this may be just the beginning of an extraordinary journey into previously "uncharted" trading territory. May we enjoy a long and prosperous exploration together, and may your efforts and your ingenuity be richly rewarded! Thank you for inviting us to join you, and

Cheers!

THx idoogye, my "job" is one of those half-snoring post type low paying deals, so I've learned to moderate my low metab life "operation" and take exceptional vits, thus can ok hang-in-there, thanks idoogye. I wish to hang-in here for the long-term for you & me both.