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Old 19-03-2006, 13:37   #9
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Re: Forex, what to read?

I support mikead_61 - 110 % on his statement above. I'm in the same boat as him. I've spent 1 1/2 years trying to learn how to trade. I honestly can't even break even. I'm hoping I can learn enough in the next 6 months to break even.

Nowdays, I only get 15 hours per week to study and research Forex, and demo trade. Forex will be only a hobby for me until the day comes when I have proven to myself that I can trade with consistent profits. I could have easily spent 40 , or 50 or who knows how many hours per week doing the same and still be in the same boat I'm in now - after another 1 1/2 years !

Over a year ago, I jumped into a real live Forex USD mini account after only 3 months of demo trading and trading experience. I thought I knew what I was doing. I lost $2,500.00 in a matter of 4-5 weeks trading 1 or two mini lots per trade with 30-40 point stops - all with 1:1 leverage. Got a margin call. Then, I dumped $1,000.00 into the account. Gone in 2 weeks. Then, $500.00. Gone in 3 days... And so on ...You get the idea ?

I tried 3 or 4 different systems/strategies during my real account days. None worked very well. With the exception of one losing system, I have since realized that it wasn't the system; it was my inexperience and lack of knowlegde of the markets. Also, it was my lack of discipline and lack of control of my emotions.

However, as a newbie, I have gotten real trading experience under my belt. I know things about emotions and trading with self-discipline that I never would have learned on only demo trading. This is part of the learning curve of successful trading. Every succesful trader has to learn how to LOSE money before they can MAKE money.

I quit trading altogether for 2 weeks to clear my head. I could have quit permenanantly, but, I realized I liked trading too much despite losing a considerable amount of my hard-earned cash. Then, I decided to return to demo trading until I can be consistently profitable however long this takes. (Even if it takes another 5 or more years). I won't risk any more real money until I feel very comfortable and have proven to myself I can trade successfully for atleast 6 months (possibly a full year)without large drawdowns and a gradually increasing account equity.

Eventually, I beleive I can trade with a consistently increasing equity curve. It's just a matter of time. I'm optimistic about the next 6 months
The two books mentioned above are very good. I have read both of them several times. Van Tharp mentions though that the book is not for somebody who doesn't have basic knowledge of fundamental and technical analysis. Also, he mentions actual (at least demo) trading experience is recommended for better understanding of his book.

One needs to focus on the the "long-term" and be in it for the "long-haul" to be successful. But, learn as much as you can - as fast as you can. It comes down to the question : "How badly do you want to become a successful trader ?" Just don't be too over-anxious and over-agressive with your real money until you have proven yourself as a trader - and only you can be the judge of that.
I remind myself all the time :"I want to be trading the markets 5, 10, 20 or even 30 years from now !"
Anyways, good luck trading, and learning.

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Old 19-03-2006, 15:17   #10
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Re: Forex, what to read?

Thank you guys for your advices. I take them all into account.

BUT I disagree with mikead_61 to this: It's alright for experts economists, analysts to be devoted to research for economy and stuff like these so as to predict market movements. And for solo traders as well if they like it. But for me, since i'm not studying economy or sth like that, I simply do not have the time and the mood to walk this path. I have many other stuff in mind to do than to be devoted to the markets. Maybe later.. I'm not greedy after all, I just want a better living. And because nothing it's free nowadays i'll have to make some paper too. Of course I'll walk the path of reading though. Paper doesn't come that easy. Only for some books though not many stuff.


To tell you the truth I was fascinated when my grandpa talked about his stocks and sometimes watched the news together. He stills talks about them BUT he always tells me and he's strict to this: "Be an Investor not a gambler!" Ok he's correct to a point because he saw many people losing their money.. but I know it's not true that you can't make some profits out of the markets [i mean short-term not long-term]. And I want to prove this to him now that I have this opportunity with online platforms.

As outofdebt said it's all comes down to this: "How badly do you want to become a successful trader ?"

I'm trying not to be hasty and of course I couldn't trade with my money that easy so as to open straight a live account.

Anyway. I opened a demo account in fxs0l.com after reading some basics about money management and candlestick patterns but I have many questions and unknown words. Can you tell me if there is something like a dictionary so as to describe me what words like "lot, short margin, MC, OT, MTM, ALA" means in forex trading?

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Old 19-03-2006, 15:25   #11
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Re: Forex, what to read?

this might help a bit http://www.fxdd.com/fxdictionary.htm
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Old 19-03-2006, 16:23   #12
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Re: Forex, what to read?

check these sites out : (the links may not work, you may have to type them manually)

www..com
www.investopedia.com
www.aboutforex.com
www.fxstreet.com
www.tradingforbeginners.com
www.muddbuddha.com
www.forexhours.com


The first one is supposed to be www. b a b y p i p s . com without the spaces
also here's another : www.dailyfx.com

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very good links! many thanx
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Old 22-03-2006, 04:59   #14
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Re: Forex, what to read?

I'm also new at trading (brand new), just thought it would be something I could really get interested in yeah. Well one thing I have to say to you is if you're going to stick around and not lose your shorts, in my opinion, stay a student and read, read, read and then read some more.
The other thing that I use as an excellent resource that no one's mentioned here is...ask these folks at this forrum all the dumd questions you want. It's been my experience that these folks are my greatest resource and source of what works and what doesn't and the best part is they've ALL been very polite to me and it's free,lol.

Good Luck and you're at least not alone yeah!!!
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