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Old 20-11-2004, 01:17   #65
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Scalpers

How would scalpers take up liqudity? Tend to believe that scalpers ADD liquidity - not decrease it.
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Old 20-11-2004, 01:24   #66
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Everyone talks about this topic but it makes little sense. The broker still makes his money off the spread. So what do they care if you scalp? How does this differ from NASDAQ scalping. What brokers will shut you down or turn you over to manual exectuion?
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Old 20-11-2004, 01:36   #67
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Called around

Yes - i also called around to MGForex - FXCM - and they both said that they had no policy against scalping. Maybe someone could enlighten me as to why there is such discrepancies on the topic.

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Old 20-11-2004, 17:21   #68
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Skorpion,

Trust your first-hand experience. If you scalp on a live account
with, say, FXCM, and never experience any problem (other
than the expected order-fill delays during heavy trading hours),
then believe your eyes. You may not have been reading reliable
information at MoneyTec.
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Old 21-11-2004, 01:36   #69
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autofx is right, despite what anyone else has to say your own first-hand experience is the only thing that matters.

Marketmakers have no need to close anyone's account for the way they trade and the idea of the sales desk phoning a client telling him not to scalp or they'll 'shut him down' is a bit farfetched. Competition is fierce for clients, marketmakers are cutting spreads, offering free training courses, better charts, free news feeds, flasher platforms, it won't be long before you'll get Air Miles and a cuddly toy with every lot traded! The last thing they're likely to do is close accounts when they have no reason to.

Having said that, you do run the risk of experiencing delays while all your market orders go through a dealer rather than automatic instant electronic execution. They'll do this when, for example, a trader opens a large trade on a spike and closes it milliseconds later for a few pips and a lot of profit. The problem for the broker in trades like this is he has nowhere to offset your position, the instant automatic order execution will put him on the other side of your trade, in effect he loses what you win in a trade like that. A good example was the recent controversy over filled market orders around NFP data which were later revoked, the broker simply lost too much money and explained later that the price did not exist and the market never really traded there. Slightly unfair perhaps but that was their prerogative, after all they dictate the terms of business and either we tow the line or close our accounts and go elsewhere, but in more or less any event the broker has no valid reason to close your account, whatever your style of trading happens to be, they have other ways to discourage trader practices which affect their profit line.


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Old 22-11-2004, 11:23   #70
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Well Said,......... very well said
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Well Said,......... very well said

Me? If it was then thanks, autofx started the ball rolling though so he deserves the credit.

While I'm on a roll let me dispel another fallacy, time. The timing of trades makes absolutely no difference to your broker whatsoever, whether you open a trade and close it 10 seconds later he really doesn't care as long as he has the opportunity to offset your trade if he needs to, there is no ominious radar scanning for traders who open/close within any specific time period. They do watch out for traders taking advantage of spikes though, as mentioned in my previous literary masterpiece! Play fair and treat your broker with respect and he'll return the courtesy.

Brokers want you, they need you, without your volume they can't make any money. We need them, without them we can't trade.


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Old 22-11-2004, 14:05   #72
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EFX (sorry didn't get the whole login).
I actually talked to my dealer about this today. Apperrently what some of the bad apples do is open accounts at 3 or 4 brokers. have all the platforms open , then because some dealers lag others, they pull the trigger on the dealer that is lagging. I guess a couple of dealers got hit pretty hard on a couple NFPS which is why alot of them now do not guarentee fills. Food for thought
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