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Old 25-01-2004, 08:19   #1
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Entry stops

I find it difficult to enter trades using a market order. When the time comes to enter I tend to get very nervous. Also using a market order means having to watch the market for many hours waiting for the right time to enter. This is a problem because of my time zone.

I would like to use a stop order to enter trades. That way there is not so much pressure when entering an order. And also you can place the order in advance and not have to watch the screen all the time.

Does anybody have any methods using a stop order to enter a trade? I am looking at a longer timeframe (i.e. a few months ideally).

Ideas for uptrends (opposite for downtrends)

Place a buy stop order one tick above the latest high. If rally resumes after a dip will be stopped in.

For dips, place a buy stop order one tick above yesterday's high. If rally resumes will be stopped in. If not lower stop to today's high.

For dips, place buy stop order above intraday resistance levels (e.g. fib retrenchments, congestion levels etc).

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Old 26-01-2004, 21:47   #2
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Lightbulb Limit Order

Novice,

I believe, that regardless your time frame, trading begins and ends in a similar way.

Firstly, all you need to do is to do the analysis first. Set up your entry price and your target price, as well as your stop-loss price.

Second, you would have to choose to do it manually, by using market order, or to do it automatically, by utilizing limit and stop orders. This would depend on how long you can stay in front of your monitor.

If you can't watch the market for hours, then setting trade automatically, obviously, the best option for you.

Just set up your limit order for entry, as well as your stop/loss order and profit-taking order. Where, at what price, you should set the orders are up to your trading techniques.

You want to intercept the market, buy slightly above the support, or short just below a resistance. You want to chase the market, buy just above resistance, or short just below support. How you come up with the support and resistance levels are up to your trading techniques. Either you can reverse a losing trade or not, that would also depend on your preferences.

I actually prefer to automate my trades. Helps to discipline myself. If I use market order, I could easily distracted from my original trading plan. It's sooo easy to hold out a losing trade, and it's toooo easy to shut down a profitable trade prematurely. But when I set them up automatically, all I need to do is to keep my hands off those orders.

Good Luck, Good Trade!
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Old 26-01-2004, 23:10   #3
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For me having the broker enter my trades I think is the way to go, thus market orders are not for me.

Stop vs. Limit

I still prefer stop orders. With limit orders you are relying on the market reversing just after your limit order has being filled. As such there is a greater risk of being caught by a reversal.

As such even though the profits are smaller I prefer a stop order. Also if I am trading on a longer time frame what I want is reliability (i.e. as few as possible false signals). Slightly smaller profits would be a fair trade off for this IMHO.

eternalfuture I appreciate you replying to this question as well as the other questions I have asked in the past.
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Anybody have any other method to use stops to enter trades?
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