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Old 08-08-2003, 01:31   #17
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Ok....same prob as you had, Suzanne - where to start. BTW, I will use this opp and tell you how glad I am to see the beautiful half of human race in our business and here on forum. Will be glad to see you participating more...
I think I will try to show good and bad sides of each aproach and let others decide whats better: positional trading (PT) or intraday trading (IT).

Stops:

PT:
good:
big stop = less chance to get stopped in case you're in the right direction;
bad:
in case stopped, bigger loss.
IT:
good: little stop = little loss
bad : even if you enter and the price will be at your tgt in 5 min, you may get stopped before it happens

in case you use bigger stope in intraday trading (50+), than you're playing against fair money management strategy. In intraday trading, tgts are around 50 pips +/- 10-20 pips. So one cannot use that big stops...

sitting in front of the monitor:

PT:
good:
no need to sit in front of the moniroe all day, and after moving stop to breakeven, one can leave if there are no other current or expected trades. Usually even if trade closed at breakeven, reentering doesnt appear immidiately. It takes time.
bad : -

IT:
good: not much - been there, done that.
bad :
siting in front of the monitor untill one/couple trades are made, sitting during the trade, and untill its closed. Lots of stress...very
tiresome. Stressed man cannot think clear and its harder to concentrate. I.e. hurting future trading.

Fundies:

PT:
good:
having positional trade, fundamental news can not make that big affect on market. Even if direction is down, and news indicate up, market will move, but not that much to hurt your position

IT:
bad :
Your position may be stopped because of soem news/data. Though eco data dont have such a great impact on market anymore, it still can move market 20-100 pips against the major direction. Do IT stop has no chance to survive. Well, this was partially covered earlier.

PT:
less chances to get into wrong direction, as PTrader usually uses longer term charts, and is not bothered by 1 and 5 min charts. Therefore has better chances to enter with the trend, and not against it.

IT:
has to follow shorter term charts and signals of his system,
including trades against trend on larget term charts.

Time frames:

PT:
good: using several time frames gives better idea about main direction
bad :
Using several time frames may be confusing and there may be conflict between diff frames about the direction...

IT:
good:
Less confusion - easier to make decision.
bad :
may trade against stronger trend on bigger time frame.

Once I remember more, I will post...

And as Suzanne said - think about it: why is IT/scalping so popular? Is'nt it because its more advertized and advised...? The only once interested in it are brokers and their affiliates. As far as I know, most institutional/bank/fund traders are mostly trading longer term? hmmmmm interesting, is it?

Good Trades no matter IT or PT
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Old 08-08-2003, 07:27   #18
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Something to celebrate

Hi Rezo_s,

How are you going to celebrate 1000 posts?

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Old 08-08-2003, 07:47   #19
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Trendlines

I use trendlines and sma. I look at other indicators but I don't base positions off them. I subscibe to the KISS (keep it simple stupid) program. I like to buy or sell ahead of 3 point trends and if I only have 2 I wait for the price action at the point and if bounces I get in on a stop. I keep it simple and don't over-trade. I am right about 50-60% of the time, but my risk reward covers that. I mostly make markets in my trading so that makes it easy to keep my head in the market. That is just me tho.
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Old 08-08-2003, 08:08   #20
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Hi Rezo and everybody.
Regarding your post about good and bad of PT and IT.
How about trends?

On PT you generally do not trade sideways market. Such as a sideways daily chart. But when looking at smaller time frame charts there are trends all over the place making IT more desirable in that case. The shorter the time frame, the more trends there are.
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Old 08-08-2003, 08:47   #21
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Hi Russ.
Yes, indeed this is another good side of IT - ability to trade flat market and profit from it. Wheres in PT, one cannot use flat market to profit. This is a big and important notice, as statistically market is in flat 75% of the time (or so).

Thanks for sharing.
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Old 09-08-2003, 12:07   #22
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Thumbs up Day trading or positional/longer term trades?

Hi every body,

Well to start with I would like to say every one that have participated in the post has very welled points, and surly very walled questions.

About a month or so ago I had the exact same questions all you guy's have in here. I even had a big disagreement with one of the top guy's in this forum one day about day intraday trading. So I had to go and do some really needed self study on various systems that will fit in to my comfort zone. I use to love intraday trading and think I still do, but the bad thing about it is ,when you lose money you want to get it back and then you take bigger risks. And that way you could loose more and more. Believe me when I say that I had whipped to accounts of mine that way.

So this is what I found that works for me the best. PATTERNS, PATTERNS, PATTERNS!!!! Head & shoulders is my favored, and the there is double tops and triple tops. And ever sins I've started trading that way on my new accounts, I have discovered the following.

I'm much more disciplined in my trading, I'm looking for my trades, and the probability is much more there than with any system I have ever traded. I also gives you an entry and an estimated area where to take profit. I have made 300 pips in 2 weeks, with pattern trading. So guy's it is really worth while looking @ it.

good luck to you all.



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Old 09-08-2003, 13:57   #23
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Talking Paul Koszarny

Hi Paul, I would like to have some info about your pivots system....Send me an email please...
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