I am absolutely flabbergasted....

[MickMason]

Originally Posted by Thrakos

marketing .... reasd first page thread started with some one who ha a vendeta against a member of this forum ...
I have read Truville past threads and he did a great deal of help to this forum discussing his various techiques ....
You believe you can trade successfully urself all the power to you, but if u can not and you dnt wana worry about it then there is Truville or who ever else you chose ...
Lets all try to have an open mind here we all have the right to an oppinion.

Thrakos

Sure we can have an open mind, that's exactly what I'm saying. I have nothing against Truville, I don't even know the guy, he seems friendly enough from what I've read. I don't know if he's a good businessman, I don't know if he's a profitable trader, neither do you.

With our open and impartial minds let's look at this logically, nothing to do with Truville. Someone says he's selling $ignals, he says he has 98 subscribers, he publishes past-performance results, he offers no free trial of his service, he (rudely in my opinion) ignores an offer from another forum member who was quite prepared to watch his calls and post the results, and there are no posts from satisfied clients. What conclusion can anyone come to, it doesn't really inspire a lot of confidence does it?

I think we have to exercise a bit of common sense, logic, and caution when it comes to handing over money, there are too many scams around.


Mick

[Truville]

Well Mick, you raise a couple of interesting points. I’ll address them individually.

Originally Posted by MickMason

he publishes past-performance results

What’s the alternative? What, other than past performance, would you deem satisfactory?

Originally Posted by MickMason

he offers no free trial of his service,

Three people last week emailed me for free trial.

I think the reason you said that though, is because I don’t offer a free trial here. And that is true. Because I don’t advertise here. Have you ever seen me advertise my site? Even once? I’ll save you the search. No, I haven’t. I will speak of my site in response, I will respond to attacks on my credibility, of course, but I have never advertised my site here.

Originally Posted by MickMason

he (rudely in my opinion) ignores an offer from another forum member who was quite prepared to watch his calls and post the results

Are you referring to trendcatcher? The person that, just a page ago, said “you have to be crazy to give truville $550 for his signels, especially when you look at his cheap shoddy web site.”.

Is this the neutral arbiter you would have me submit to, Mick?

Originally Posted by MickMason

and there are no posts from satisfied clients.

Would you believe them if I did? I mean, several people here have accused me of faking my results. Is it really so hard to believe they’d say I faked testimonials as well?

Just as a curiosity, tell me. What would actually satisfy? Results can be faked. Number of subscribers can be faked. Testimonials can be faked. So what cannot be faked? What is it that exists that absolutely, bar none, beyond all doubt satisfactory?

You said “ I think we have to exercise a bit of common sense, logic, and caution when it comes to handing over money, there are too many scams around. And I quite agree.

So tell me, using your logic, common sense and caution. What piece of evidence could I submit to that is absolutely unimpeachable? That is totally convincing, that cannot be faked, that is perfectly persuasive? There must be something, right?

You said “It doesn’t sound convincing”. So what does convince?

[Tzachi]

Truville,

Why do you really care what is said here?

Your members will stay with you or not, not because what is said here but based on +/- pips in their accounts generated from your $ignals.

You got your memebrs without advertising here.

Since you already have 98 paid subscribers, you believe in your system, its generates money to your members, so why do you care?

I am sure that if your system makes a profit for your members, not only they will stay with you but will promot your service 2.

So again, why to spend time here? why not just work on the system to get it even better than it is and getting more members?

Good luck with your business.

Tzachi.

[Truville]

Originally Posted by Tzachi

Truville,

Why do you really care what is said here?

You really are very right on here, Tzachi. I debated whether to even post a response here, and really you are right. I won't convince anyone here, nor do I need to.

I am going to take your advice and just let it be.

[Tzachi]

Truville,

Good for you !

G/L again and hope to read your input in other threads from time to time.

Tzachi.

[MickMason]

lol, there you go Truville, an endorsement from someone who thinks frantically trying to scalp spot forex for 2pips at 400:1 leverage without a stop is the way to make money in this market. Perhaps you could have the 'Tzachi Seal of Approval' logo on your website!

Too funny.....

C'ya

Mick

[Tzachi]

Mick,

Do I detect in your posts a sense of jealousy? Didn't you like my advice to Truville??? You want him to listen to your advice and give you his system for free to "test" it? Maybe you will get some ideas for your future $ignal business??

If you go to :http://www.moneytec.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15162 to page 14 , you will find a sample of my trading system. Its a short time trading, not really scalping for 2-3 pips with no stops and 400:1.

Anyway,

As I adviced Truville, I will do the same:

"Why do you really care what is said here?"

"Your members will stay with you or not, not because what is said here but based on +/- pips in their accounts generated from your $ignals.
You got your memebrs without advertising here.
Since you already have 98 paid subscribers, you believe in your system, its generates money to your members, so why do you care?
I am sure that if your system makes a profit for your members, not only they will stay with you but will promot your service 2.
So again, why to spend time here? why not just work on the system to get it even better than it is and getting more members?
Good luck with your business."

So I will have to ignor your comments as they are not in any way posted to help anyone here and now I can go back to do what I know to do best- trading my system.


Tzachi.

[CrazyAfterDark]

This thread is pointless.

Trueville is doing what he's doing to make money. He is selling signals through a monthly subsciption. He has nearly 100 members already.

For all the people criticizing him, why dont you pay for a month and try it out. THEN you can criticize. Alot of you are talking about something you don't know about. You've never tried his service to question it.HE is even giving the opportunity to verify results with his customers. What more do you want?

Everyone wants everything for free. Nothing is free. You want to try something, you can't be greedy and expect to get it for free. Pay money. It's a risk sure. When was anything NOT a risk? You are trading forex arent you? Isnt that a risk? This is the same thing. Invest some money,try it out,if it works out, good for you,if it doesnt work out,well tough luck,what can you do.

If you think it seems like some scam so he can make money and rip you off then dont subscribe and leave it at that. Tekunda what did you expect from this thread? getting a free subscription from Trueville? Well he said it's not gonna happen. I don't see any other motive for this.

Trueville keep doing what you're doing and don't listen to the haters. Keep making that paper because thats what its all about