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Old 13-06-2005, 17:04   #41
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Re: I am absolutely flabbergasted....

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I also use a signal provider to supplement my income. I researched that person (anybody can guess who it is) and followed his trades for almost a year on a demo, thus was truly able to verify if he is genuine or not and recently signed up and started to trade live money.

I can't guess who it is, who is it, give us a clue


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Old 13-06-2005, 17:30   #42
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Re: I am absolutely flabbergasted....

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If they're not, what's to top a clueless wannabe setting up shop, producing past-performance results, charging clients $xxx with a clause in the agreement stating 'Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Forex trading is a risky business blah blah blah....', and refusing refunds because he's avoided all liability! Consumers are protected in most every other area, why should this be any different?

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Mick,

Take a look at that collective site posted earlier. There are over 300 providers listed there. I say it's a safe bet that a lot of them are just what you described above.

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Old 13-06-2005, 17:34   #43
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Re: I am absolutely flabbergasted....

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Mick,

Take a look at that collective site posted earlier. There are over 300 providers listed there. I say it's a safe bet that a lot of them are just what you described above.

Nat

Ok, thanks Nat, I'm just looking at the site right now, seems like a good place...

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Old 13-06-2005, 17:48   #44
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Re: I am absolutely flabbergasted....

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So nothing personal Truville, it is not about you, relax, it is about your customer's attitude and the attitude of people in general, who seem to be so easy mislead by promises of big money.

Well Tekunda, I’ll be the bigger man and accept your apology. You’ll have to forgive me though, for thinking your attacks on me were personal. Usually when someone calls me a crook, as you did, I take it personally. I had no idea you were calling me a crook in general. I feel much better, thank you.

But I’m curious about your thinking on something else. You said: ” In my humble opinion the fee is so modest that this also tells me a lot about that person's character.

I guess I just don’t understand how a lower price reflects that person’s “character”. I have less character because I charge more? He has more because he charges less? If someone gives away their signals for free, are they eligible for sainthood? I mean, I just don’t get it. There are Mercedes and there are Toyotas. Does their respective prices tell you something about the automakers character?

I also don’t get why my “poorly designed” webpage bothers you so much. You mentioned your current provider “(and I cannot help but need to add that his website also looks quite professional)” I really just fail to see why this is such a hot button issue with you. Are you honestly telling me that if I had a pro design my webpage you’d have no problem with me? Ooops! Sorry! You don’t have a problem with me, just signal providers in general, unless they charge a “modest” fee and then you are fine with them. Do I have that right?

Look, if your guy lets you have his signals free for a year, good for you. But that’s not me. I firmly believe in the third date rule.

If your guy only charges $100, again good for you. But don’t you think it just a bit odd that he values his service so little? Don’t you think that undercharging is as suspicious as overcharging? I do. I’d be wary of someone who thought so little of the service they provide.

I have no idea if I am the most expensive, right in the middle, or what. I charge what I think is a fair price. If anyone thinks it is too expensive, they don’t sign up.

But I still don’t get your objections here, even though they aren’t about me “per se”. Why do you assume that “my clients dream of the big bucks”? Why do you assume “people sign up without proper research”? Because honestly you know nothing about either my services or my people. You’ve got your little $100 a month guy, and that’s great. Some people just love to shop at the Dollar store too. But that’s not me. It’s not my customers.

Note: I’m not bashing you, your $100 a month signal provider, or people that shop at Dollar stores, per se, Tekunda. Basically what I did was taking you just as an example for my line of reasoning, that was all. Don’t take it personally.
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Old 13-06-2005, 18:28   #45
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Re: I am absolutely flabbergasted....

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If your guy only charges $100, again good for you. But don’t you think it just a bit odd that he values his service so little? Don’t you think that undercharging is as suspicious as overcharging? I do. I’d be wary of someone who thought so little of the service they provide.

There's a brand of beer here in the UK whose slogan is 'reassuringly expensive'. Maybe you need a logo like that on your website. Done in a nice professional looking font mind. ;-)

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Old 13-06-2005, 18:41   #46
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There's a brand of beer here in the UK whose slogan is 'reassuringly expensive'. Maybe you need a logo like that on your website. Done in a nice professional looking font mind. ;-)

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I would, but my website is so crappy that no one would believe it!
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Old 13-06-2005, 19:53   #47
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Re: I am absolutely flabbergasted....

Truville,

You see, that why I do not sell signals.

You can have a great system
You can bulid a great web site.
You can get 100 people to join as paid members.
And than:

People will start to complain about the charges, the timing of some calls, the way the web site looks like, your character, why you take a day off, etc. etc.

My solution:

I have agreat system.
I trade for my own account.
I do not need to deal with legal issues.
I do not need to market to others.
I do not need to show a professional web site/store front.
I do not need to show anyone my past performance/bank account, etc.


I can take off whenever I want to.
I can go ski or to the beach for 2 weeks without asking my cllients.
I can sleep late on a day that like to.
I can take of a day and go to play golf without the clients calling.
I can do whetever I want to do.

God bless America, capitalizm, and the forex market.

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Old 13-06-2005, 20:17   #48
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Tekunda. Basically what I did was taking you just as an example for my line of reasoning, that was all. Don’t take it personally.

Sure, no problem, I did not take it personal. Maybe I can learn from you (and no pun intended).
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