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| I am reposting this. On Russian forums there is this trading legend, a scalper who claims to be able to increase deposit 10% per day!!! I was testing it and sometimes it DOES make good results, but since I live in mountain time zone, the system is tough... I feel too sleepy and I was unable to test it long enough... But I did have awesome pip gains, it was one of the best systems I ever tried (except for the tough time and the fact that this is scalping). I would like to see the kind of result people can get... Test it on a demo. I am curious, is this for real? And please post the results here. Here is rough translation, summarization: ---- Trading pairs:ffice GBP/USD, EUR/JPY (or USD/JPY depending on situation), USD/CAD, USD/CHF; Indicator Groups: №1 USD/CHF, USD/CAD; №2 EUR/USD, GBP/USD; № 3 EUR/JPY, USD/JPY. IF 1st group is moving in one direction and 2nd in the opposite, then we know USD tendency. If both pairs in group #3 are moving in one direction, then we know the JPY tendency. Only trade pairs whose channel is 50 pips . (One channel of asian flat, another one before NY) Best volatility, time to trade: 2:15-5:30am EST 8-11:30am EST You can enter other pairs (especially Swiss, sometimes GBP, maybe even Cad which also shows where euro should go) even if their daily range <50 pips, as long as Euro broke its daily H or L and is moving. Enter on the breakout of current channel from tick charts through stop orders only. Example if Group 1 is growing, consider buyng USD/CHF,USD/Cad and only shorting gbp/usd. If EUR/JPY, USD/JPY and EUR/USD both move in one direction enter on EUR/JPY. IF group N1 goes in one direction and N2 in another, enter on usd/jpy only in the direction of group #1. For London session the channel is daily high-daily low. For New York, it is the channel for the past 10min-4hours depending on market volatility. If the market is not volatile the channel is usually from past 30 minutes, if it was volatile than the channel is build for the past 10 minutes. IF few pairs are going in appropriate direction, then the tendency may be for an hour. If all six pairs move in appropriate directions, then the tendency may be for the whole day. CAD really starts to move only in US Session. Cad is good in the fact that if it breaks daily extreme at 6:30EST, then it will trend to 6:15-6:25ESR (if news) and to 7:15am EST if there aren’t news in the US session Money management: Enter on breaking of daily extreme per pair: Euro group 1/32 + 1/4 + 1/32(1/16) + ... Yen group,Usd/Cad 1/32 + 1/8 + 1/32(1/16) + ... Enter from local extremum for all 1/32 + 1/16 + 1/8 + 1/32(1/16) +... your initial entry is 1/32 * 4(or5 or less) pairs = 12.5% of deposit. Then pyramid for euro,swiss 1/4 or 1/8 for Yen and Cad. Pyramid positions every constant number of pips (ex 20pips) only for the pairs that are moving, don’t add to those pairs that are barely moving. Paramon says that he does 10-20 orders per day. Stop loss: Initially 1 pip below the current daily candle (which could be 50+ pips). Then moved to the start of the move or (Daily High – Dailylow) /2 . If multiple currency pairs suddenly start breaking the Daily Middle (H-L/2) then enter. Set ultra short stop loss during important times: 2:00, 2:30,3-3:15, 4-4:15, 5-5:30, 7-7:15, 10-10:15, 11-11:30am EST. Also exit if the position freezes for 15 minutes. On Friday close by 11am. Take profit: trailing stop of (10-30 pips). Or behind recent extreme (using dow theory). Also if group tendency changes then exit. Orders are modified every 5 minutes and constantly during news time. Some days the guy makes 100-300 pips PER DAY. Some random statements: MSK time. --- some random results --- 01.07.04 10:35 06.07.04 USD/CHF 15 000.00 USD 1.2535 Forex 2 744 906 01.07.04 11:07 06.07.04 GBP/USD -8 000.00 GBP 1.8155 Forex 2 744 976 01.07.04 12:00 06.07.04 GBP/USD -8 000.00 GBP 1.8135 Forex 2 745 044 01.07.04 12:08 06.07.04 GBP/USD -16 000.00 GBP 1.8125 Forex 2 745 061 01.07.04 12:09 06.07.04 USD/CHF 15 000.00 USD 1.2555 Forex 2 745 063 01.07.04 12:11 06.07.04 GBP/USD 32 000.00 GBP 1.8125 Forex 2 745 069 01.07.04 12:12 06.07.04 USD/CHF -30 000.00 USD 1.2561 Forex 2 745 071 Swiss +26 Pound +30 Total +56 02.07.04 16:30 07.07.04 USD/CAD -18 000.00 USD 1.3295 Forex 2 748 884 02.07.04 16:30 07.07.04 USD/CHF -18 000.00 USD 1.2460 Forex 2 748 904 02.07.04 16:30 07.07.04 GBP/USD 10 000.00 GBP 1.8215 Forex 2 748 939 02.07.04 16:31 07.07.04 USD/JPY -18 000.00 USD 108.35 Forex 2 748 986 02.07.04 16:33 07.07.04 USD/CHF 18 000.00 USD 1.2425 Forex 2 749 020 02.07.04 16:35 07.07.04 GBP/USD -10 000.00 GBP 1.8287 Forex 2 749 063 02.07.04 16:36 07.07.04 USD/JPY 18 000.00 USD 108.35 Forex 2 749 080 02.07.04 16:37 06.07.04 EUR/JPY 15 000.00 EUR 133.05 Forex 2 749 089 02.07.04 16:37 07.07.04 USD/CAD 18 000.00 USD 1.3269 Forex 2 749 098 02.07.04 16:38 06.07.04 EUR/JPY -15 000.00 EUR 132.85 Forex 2 749 104 Swiss +35 Pound +72 Canadian +26 Еur/Jpy -20 total +113 (113 pip per day with almost maxed out lots... )04.01.05 11:09 06.01.05 USD/CAD 44 000.00 USD 1.2095 Forex 3 442 349 04.01.05 11:10 06.01.05 GBP/USD -23 000.00 GBP 1.9025 Forex 3 442 352 04.01.05 11:25 06.01.05 USD/CHF 44 000.00 USD 1.1490 Forex 3 442 375 04.01.05 11:31 06.01.05 USD/CHF 44 000.00 USD 1.1510 Forex 3 442 431 04.01.05 12:22 06.01.05 USD/CAD 44 000.00 USD 1.2115 Forex 3 442 600 04.01.05 12:24 06.01.05 USD/CHF 88 000.00 USD 1.1530 Forex 3 442 618 04.01.05 12:30 06.01.05 GBP/USD -23 000.00 GBP 1.8995 Forex 3 442 665 04.01.05 12:38 06.01.05 GBP/USD -46 000.00 GBP 1.8965 Forex 3 442 769 04.01.05 12:40 06.01.05 USD/CHF 176 000.00 USD 1.1550 Forex 3 442 788 04.01.05 12:41 06.01.05 USD/CAD 88 000.00 USD 1.2135 Forex 3 442 798 04.01.05 12:54 06.01.05 USD/CAD -176 000.00 USD 1.2125 Forex 3 442 839 04.01.05 12:55 06.01.05 USD/CHF -352 000.00 USD 1.1548 Forex 3 442 841 04.01.05 12:55 06.01.05 GBP/USD 92 000.00 GBP 1.8975 Forex 3 442 842 04.01.05 12:58 06.01.05 USD/CAD 48 000.00 USD 1.2135 Forex 3 442 910 04.01.05 13:03 06.01.05 GBP/USD -25 000.00 GBP 1.8950 Forex 3 442 954 04.01.05 13:22 06.01.05 USD/CAD 48 000.00 USD 1.2155 Forex 3 443 076 04.01.05 13:33 06.01.05 USD/CAD -96 000.00 USD 1.2135 Forex 3 443 134 04.01.05 13:35 06.01.05 GBP/USD 25 000.00 GBP 1.8957 Forex 3 443 151 04.01.05 15:10 06.01.05 USD/CHF 94 000.00 USD 1.1580 Forex 3 443 342 04.01.05 15:16 06.01.05 GBP/USD -50 000.00 GBP 1.8930 Forex 3 443 354 04.01.05 15:33 06.01.05 GBP/USD 50 000.00 GBP 1.8927 Forex 3 443 442 04.01.05 15:33 06.01.05 USD/CHF -94 000.00 USD 1.1587 Forex 3 443 444 04.01.05 18:00 06.01.05 GBP/USD -25 000.00 GBP 1.8925 Forex 3 443 776 04.01.05 18:02 06.01.05 USD/CHF 47 000.00 USD 1.1600 Forex 3 443 787 04.01.05 18:03 06.01.05 USD/CAD 47 000.00 USD 1.2160 Forex 3 443 799 04.01.05 18:10 06.01.05 USD/CAD 47 000.00 USD 1.2180 Forex 3 443 816 04.01.05 18:17 06.01.05 GBP/USD -25 000.00 GBP 1.8895 Forex 3 443 849 04.01.05 18:18 06.01.05 USD/CHF 47 000.00 USD 1.1620 Forex 3 443 865 04.01.05 18:20 06.01.05 USD/CAD 94 000.00 USD 1.2200 Forex 3 443 902 04.01.05 18:22 06.01.05 USD/CHF 94 000.00 USD 1.1640 Forex 3 443 935 04.01.05 18:25 06.01.05 GBP/USD -50 000.00 GBP 1.8865 Forex 3 443 975 04.01.05 18:27 06.01.05 USD/CAD 188 000.00 USD 1.2220 Forex 3 444 002 04.01.05 18:32 06.01.05 USD/CAD -376 000.00 USD 1.2220 Forex 3 444 042 04.01.05 18:32 06.01.05 GBP/USD 100 000.00 GBP 1.8865 Forex 3 444 043 04.01.05 18:33 06.01.05 USD/CHF -188 000.00 USD 1.1652 Forex 3 444 045 04.01.05 18:49 06.01.05 USD/CAD 54 000.00 USD 1.2225 Forex 3 444 099 04.01.05 18:51 06.01.05 USD/CHF 54 000.00 USD 1.1660 Forex 3 444 110 04.01.05 18:55 06.01.05 GBP/USD -29 000.00 GBP 1.8855 Forex 3 444 130 04.01.05 19:01 06.01.05 USD/CAD -54 000.00 USD 1.2237 Forex 3 444 189 04.01.05 19:02 06.01.05 GBP/USD 29 000.00 GBP 1.8835 Forex 3 444 193 04.01.05 19:03 06.01.05 USD/CHF -54 000.00 USD 1.1671 Forex 3 444 202 Cad +102 CHF +128 GBP +126 Total +356 05.01.05 10:47 07.01.05 GBP/USD -29 000.00 GBP 1.8795 Forex 3 449 369 05.01.05 10:47 07.01.05 USD/CHF 55 000.00 USD 1.1700 Forex 3 449 371 05.01.05 10:53 07.01.05 USD/CHF -55 000.00 USD 1.1709 Forex 3 449 409 05.01.05 10:53 07.01.05 GBP/USD 29 000.00 GBP 1.8785 Forex 3 449 410 05.01.05 12:54 07.01.05 USD/CAD 55 000.00 USD 1.2265 Forex 3 449 633 05.01.05 12:56 07.01.05 GBP/USD -29 000.00 GBP 1.8780 Forex 3 449 638 05.01.05 12:58 07.01.05 USD/CHF 55 000.00 USD 1.1715 Forex 3 449 660 05.01.05 12:59 07.01.05 GBP/USD -29 000.00 GBP 1.8750 Forex 3 449 672 05.01.05 13:08 07.01.05 USD/CHF 55 000.00 USD 1.1735 Forex 3 449 758 05.01.05 13:16 07.01.05 USD/CAD 55 000.00 USD 1.2285 Forex 3 449 838 05.01.05 13:21 07.01.05 USD/CHF 110 000.00 USD 1.1755 Forex 3 449 868 05.01.05 13:22 07.01.05 USD/CAD 110 000.00 USD 1.2305 Forex 3 449 871 05.01.05 13:36 07.01.05 USD/CAD -220 000.00 USD 1.2302 Forex 3 449 911 05.01.05 13:36 07.01.05 GBP/USD 58 000.00 GBP 1.8745 Forex 3 449 912 05.01.05 13:38 07.01.05 USD/CHF -220 000.00 USD 1.1749 Forex 3 449 918 CHF +43 GBP +45 CAD +37 Total +125 // in russian http://forum.masterforex-v.org/inde...indpost&p=29204 ----------------------- My ideas would be to use USD/INX, Gbp/CHF as an indicator for Pound or swiss franc and GBP/Jpy as additional indicator for pound and yen, and please don't pyramid or open up too many lots.... Anyhow It would be interesting if people could try it (on a demo please) and put all the results in THIS thread... For some reason only Paramon seems to get those kinds of results (strategy was tested in Russian forums a lot), so either the system is fake or it requires a certain mastery. So I am not afraid that if this system works, it will become obsolete... -------------- BTW I am testing tick by tick a semirandom system on Eur/CHF and results are for 3.5-4 month... Not bad so far... So what the heck were we doing with TA? Profits 152 Largest 133 Average 19 Losses 87 Largest 116 Average 19 Total profit or loss 1285 Maximum Drawdown 233 |
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| Re: Paramon Scalping system. 10% deposit per day you are absolutely right about (so either the system is fake or it requires a certain mastery. So I am not afraid that if this system works, it will become obsolete). this is too complicated for someone like me that doesn't have live trading experience,specially that this is scalping system. i can learn this but it will take time, i mean a serious time so what you think? can i learn this? cause in forex, there is no easy money or easy profitable system. you have to work hard. |
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| Re: Paramon Scalping system. 10% deposit per day Quote:
1)understanding my translation of it. 2)Remembering all the details. Remember, the devil is in the details.... 3)doing it 3am in the morning... |
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| Re: Paramon Scalping system. 10% deposit per day hey TraderABC i'm from lebanon and 3am Est is 10am every time i hear SCALPING i get excited, i guess i love this word but i know it's a very very dangerous word, the thing is that i have 2 systems in my mind and this is the 3rd and i'm confuse wich one to pick cause i'm gonna focus and study one of the 3sys and i will try to make it profitable and will take serious time, the other two is trend system and the problem is i trade manualy,i trade what i see (demo) and i can't quit my job to spot a trend, that's why scalping good for me but again very very hard thing. so what is your recommendation for a guy who's in love with the SCALPING |
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| Re: Paramon Scalping system. 10% deposit per day Quote:
1st) If you have shift work, try to move some work days it to saturday/sundays and during holidays. 2nd)I guess one should trade daily or 8hr bars... |
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| Re: Paramon Scalping system. 10% deposit per day ok TraderABC, let me put it this way, is it worth it to put my time and learn this system? i'm asking you cause it's very obvious that you have experience in trading. |
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| Re: Paramon Scalping system. 10% deposit per day Personally I don't want to sit infront of the computer from 12am to 10am so I am not going to be doing this sort of "night trading". I am looking into 6hr charts... About scalping, it depends how long you hold your positions. If you hold them for seconds, than brokers will obviously not like that. But if you hold them for much longer, then it shouldn't be a problem. In this system you may hold a position for an hour, maybe more, if the market is trending well. |
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