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Old 18-12-2004, 11:52   #1
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Trading In The Zone and The Holy Grail

Here is one of the best excerpts from Trading In The Zone (New York
Institute of Finance, Prentice Hall Press, Copyright © 2000 by
Mark Douglas, page 110):

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Traders who have learned to think in probabiliities are confident
of their overall success, because they commit themselves to
taking every trade that conforms to their definition of an edge.
They don't attempt to pick and choose the edges they think,
assume, or believe are going to work and act on those; nor do
they avoid the edges that for whatever reason they think,
assume, or believe aren't going to work. If they did either of
those things, they would be contradicting their belief that the
"now" moment situation is always unique, creating a random
distribution between wins and losses on any given string of
edges. They have learned, usually quite painfully, that they don't
know in advance which edges are going to work and which ones
aren't. They have stopped trying to predict outcomes. They have
found that by taking every edge, they correspondingly increase
their sample size of trades, which in turn gives whatever edge
they use ample opportunity to play itself out in their favor, just
like the casinos.

On the other hand, why do you think unsuccessful traders are
obsessed with market analysis. They crave the sense of
certainty that analysis appears to give them. Although few would
admit it, the truth is that the typical trader wants to be right on
every single trade. He is desperately trying create certainty
where it just doesn't exist. The irony is that if he completely
accepted the fact that certainty doesn't exist, he would create
the certainty he craves: He would be absolutely certain that
certainty doesn't exist.


~

You either get this, or you don't.

If you are one of those who has released the desperate need to
be right on every trade and is confident you can consistently
apply tactics that will keep the odds in your favor no matter
the market does next, you get it.

If you are one of those who is still chasing after the "neural
network" system that will somehow accurately predict what the
market is going to do next (good luck with that!), or who in
general still believes there must be some way to know the
unknowable (what the market will do next), or who sees no
way that straightforward tactics-based automatic trading
systems could possibly work, then you don't get it. Trading will
always be frustrating for you.

Now for everyone's Christmas present (ho ho ho)!

Understanding Mark Douglas' two simple paragraphs, quoted
above, and applying these truths to your trading, is the
Holy Grail
. It's sitting right in front of you. All you have
to do is pick it up and drink from it.

The crazy thing, though -- almost no one will!

M E R R Y C H R I S T M A S !!!
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Old 18-12-2004, 14:42   #2
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autofx

yes very good book and yes all this is so true, thx again to remember us .... Max
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Old 18-12-2004, 19:28   #3
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How funny autofx, I was just about to start this same thread. Nice job.



THE TRINITY OF SUCCESSFUL TRADING


1. A Trader must accept loss.

2. A trader must accept the uncertainty of the results of
any given trade.

3. A trader needs to think in terms of overall probabilities. (trade for expectancy not accuracy)



"Successful traders accept and expect losses. Losses are endemic to trading; they are the cost of doing business.
The consistently successful trader accepts deep in his heart that his winnings will be tempered with inevitable loss.
But the trader also anticipates his ultimate triumph because he has structured the probabilities in his favor."
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Old 18-12-2004, 22:54   #4
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maximus & KPcurrency,

Nice to see some folks do "get it".

KPcurrency, I like what you posted -- what is the source? Or are
those your words?

-Bob
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AMEN

Thanks for the reminder.

I hate to lose. I despise giving up even one stinking rotten pip.

But alas it's a part of the big picture isnt it?

I wish each of you a wonderful holiday as we celabrate our Saviors birth.

If He came to this earth once, it stands as hope that He will return again.

Merry Christmas,

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Old 19-12-2004, 09:34   #6
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doctm,

Yes, all part of the big picture. Good to see a Christian on the
forums.

-Bob
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Old 19-12-2004, 10:12   #7
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Cool quiet

Hi Bob,

It seems a bit quiet on your long term and intraday trade recommendations thread. Do you know what happend ? Hope everything is fine. All the best for you.
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Old 19-12-2004, 10:19   #8
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firedave,

System 1 is now an intraday system, similar to System 2.
Complete descriptions of these two strategies can be found
here.

System 2 has been tracked for four weeks here and here.
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