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Old 12-09-2003, 22:08   #25
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Wall..............

OUTSTANDING!!!!!!!!

PowerHungry...............

Everything is Important.......Read Wall's Post above........

Apart from all the Hard Fact's.........and Realities...

Many calculations go into a decision to hold Position...and not all produce the same outcome....I Post my Self Openly....for credit and criticism. No one is Infallible to the Market. Its the cummulative Balance of Power that should dictate your posture.

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Old 13-09-2003, 01:28   #26
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To Wall
Excellent explanation. I'm new but have been reading a lot, too much (forums,books,strategies etc). Your description encapusulated what I have concluded is the proper way to approach trading which only leaves me to develop a strategy !!
Scalping etc probably have a role but professional, sustainable trading is what your dissertation is about.
An old hoary saying : Sort the wheat from the chaff
Question : How much chaff is digestible ?
Too much chaff - keeps you bust eating - result fat & bad health
Too little chaff - too busy sorting, no time to eat - result starvation
Correct balance - good health - what good traders are trying to achieve, not perfection just a good balance of all factors
My UK farming background coming through.
Again, thanks for helping by putting my random thoughts into a cohesive written article. Please don't stop posting, its my style of thinking.
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Old 13-09-2003, 01:31   #27
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Sorry, bust=busy
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Old 13-09-2003, 08:16   #28
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Interesting Rezo:
1.On the daily bar chart, EUR posted a perfect double top on 5/26 and 6/16.
2.Since then we have had a head and shoulders formation, with the target being around 1.0700, which was reached on 9/3.

3.Also, there is a trendline from the high of 6/16 running straight down the chart, although admittedly it was broken upward on 9/8. However, the little W formation lows that it made on 8/26 and 9/4 (which was made on the support line for the sideways moving market between 1/3 and 4/22), has almost reached its resistance of 1.1417 made on 8/7.
4.To summarize, the EUR has been trending down since its last double top on 6/16.
5.The lowest low of 0.8562 was on 1/31/2002 and the highest high of 1.1930 on 6/16/2003. Between 6/26/2002 and 10/25/2002 it moved sideways, consolidating and then took off. It did the same between 1/27/2003 and 4/22/2003. However the sideways movement between 5/26 and 6/13 did not consolidate sideways, but sank down to its old support. This gives a 50% retracement target to look for at least of 1.0246, below even Iris' target of 1.1080.
Peace.

Hi Wall. Interesting you say? How about this:

1. Double top made its job, and it is not relevant anymore. It was on dailies, and triggered +2.5 month downside move with perfect down trend line. I think for daily double top its ok, but then again, who am I or you to say? If it was double top on weeklies, I would say 2-3 months is little time, but on dailies its ok...(I think)
2. If you're referring to h&s formation between 7/08 - 8/12, then sorry, but as much as it is and looks the pattern (and it worked), head and shoulders is a REVERSAL PATTERN, so it should appear AFTER upside move in order to be a signal of down move. What we got here is a trend line, and not a h&s which triggered the down move (it would be better is you attached the chart so we know what exactly are you talking about...it would be still good to see what you mean, so if its interesting and you'd like to discuss it - please post it). And suppose it was h&s, you say it reached its target, so what did it have to do with my buy call now?
3. You say its almost reached +1.14 and that's the target? well, once again, who are we to decide where is it going to reverse? - very dangerous approach, but even if its so, take a look - my target is 1.1370. And how come for you that "W" formation is not just a double top to have same effect as mentioned double top did and trigger similar upside?
4. Ok, it has so?
5. Maybe you're right, maybe not, but I am a speculative trader, so if it reverses, I will sell. I don't care and am not emotionally attached to euro - I don't care if it goes up or down, and I advise everyone not to be obsessed with any move - its much more profitable to go with the flow.
You say 1.0246? why not? -its 1000pips away from now days - I will be more than happy, cos its a long journey and if I will get to catch fifth of that move - its enough for me.

Now to summarize:
As far as I understand (?) your post starting with "interesting rezo" is supposed to be a reaction on what I replied to forex1 about my view not being entirely because of basic charting issue...well, maybe you are trading based only on patterns, figures and lines (fib, supp, ress, gann, andrew and so on), but my analysis may be little different, so please allow it to be.
I'm not saying my analysis is better than any other's, it may be just different. So maybe for you its only basic charting, and for me its something else...everyone can analyse in a way that is god and convenient for him/her.

Best wishes,
Rezo.
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Old 13-09-2003, 12:40   #29
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Rezo:
This is Iris' thread that was bumped before, because it got off track and I do not want to get into anything that might risk that again. I like following his ideas and figuring out where they came from, do I agree or not etc.
However, I will risk an answer - once - I used the word "interesting" only because you were "going up" and he was "going down" - no other reason, or motive for the use of the word - no criticism was intended or implied - sorry that you took it that way.

"There are fish in the lake. The problem is that they are covered by water. "

I was fishing out loud, not telling you how to fish.
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Old 13-09-2003, 17:58   #30
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no criticism was intended or implied - sorry that you took it that way

Criticism is a healthy thing, and if someone thinks otherwise - I think (s)he is wrong. I am glad to discuss and argue as far as it is conducted in acceptable manner. I admit, I took the word "interesting" not as I should have, so I'm sorry. There are people form time to time thinking sarcasm and irony makes their posts look wise/funny, and I am more like tired of such posts rather than taking it other way. I am not angry/upset or anything alike - and I tried to refer your posting just to tell what I thought about points you mentioned in your post. No h.f at all - the opposite - as I said earlier, discussion leads sometimes to discovering very interesting things one would never see/think about alone. So once again, sorry, as I didn't mean no harm .
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This is Iris' thread that was bumped before, because it got off track and I do not want to get into anything that might risk that again.

This is market, and I think we are all familiar with ups and downs, and despite me "going up", I am still just close to break even this month...so I don't recognize any "thread that was bumped" as far as we are talking about trading results. Criticism regarding mistakes is something else, and criticism+suggestions is what I see in previous Iris's thread.
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I was fishing out loud, not telling you how to fish.

Thank you for that, as I said I always like to see "open" discussion...and if someone posts something helping me/others to improve "how to fish" I would only thank you. The more opinions and views we get on market - the better. We have a wonderful community here on moneytec, and take it as you wish(anyone), but although we are little part of this market (and mostly not even part of real market until we trade +1 mio positions), we still represent "market" as that's a very similar happening - different participants, different views and different positions. Someone buys, someone sells. So being here and reading posts of different traders is a good thing if taken right(at least for me).

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Old 16-09-2003, 10:48   #31
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Sell Eur/Usd..................

Sell Eur/Usd.......1.1200.......Stop @ 1.1270

Open Target 1.1156
2nd Target 1.1138
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Old 16-09-2003, 12:11   #32
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