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Old 05-22-09, 09:15 AM
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Re: here is the reason why most lose trading

I've seen lots of traders falling. Most of them had on thing in common: leverages more than 5.

ofcourse our system limited the SL to 350 pips automatically.

We must keep in mind: as the market changes, our strategy may become inefficient and this may be hapenning in next trade.

But all of this is meaningful only if we have a efficient stratedgy right now
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Old 06-16-09, 01:36 PM
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Re: here is the reason why most lose trading

Risk-Reward ratio = success.
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Old 10-05-09, 11:49 AM
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To create your own system is not easy, but nothing that is profitable, or beneficial comes easy right?
Anyways making your own system is great because you fully understand it, and once you figure out your mistakes you keep fixing it making it better and better, until one day it will be near perfection.
but following the systems in the market maybe will bring some profit, but its designed to also make you lose a lot of money.
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Old 10-06-09, 03:24 AM
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To create your own system is not easy, but nothing that is profitable, or beneficial comes easy right?
Anyways making your own system is great because you fully understand it, and once you figure out your mistakes you keep fixing it making it better and better, until one day it will be near perfection.
but following the systems in the market maybe will bring some profit, but its designed to also make you lose a lot of money.
i have read article saying that but losing is not the system to be blame of. gaining profit is on how you make your system become systematic one.
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Old 10-06-09, 10:56 AM
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i have read article saying that but losing is not the system to be blame of. gaining profit is on how you make your system become systematic one.
Yes I agree, but if the system sees that all the clients are making too much profit they will try to cut them off, or else the brokers will go broke.
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Old 10-06-09, 09:51 PM
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i think the reason why most people lose money is because they don't have enough experience in trading ,,, the first thing they have to do is to try demo trading first till they feel that they are in control of trading then they can open live accounts .
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Hi there jemmy !

I agree on what you said that most traders who loose great sums of money took trading in a hurry even though they have insufficient forex trading experience and let me just add some more. They don't also have a carefully laid-out plan, they are emotionally attached to their trades and most of all they take things by chance or they trust luck is always on their side. They also lack patience.
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Old 10-12-09, 01:38 PM
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People lose because they fail to improve. You must always improve even if its slow improvement its good, but stopping will knock you of the rail of success.
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Here's an article about Simple Reasons Why Most Traderes Lose
By Sacha Tarkovsky
The reason most traders lose and never achieve currency trading success is often seen as a lack of discipline, however this is not the major reason, it’s only a minor part of the problem.
The major reason is a lack of “concentrated focus”, this takes some explaining (as most traders are unaware of it) so let’s look at it in more detail.
What is concentrated focus?
If you want to achieve currency trading success you need “concentrated focus” and this means focusing on how and why markets really work and what you have to do to win.
Most traders simply don’t do this and lose.
Let’s look at what it involves and how if you apply it, you can achieve currency trading success.
1. Work smart not hard
In many industries to achieve success the more you put in the more you get out in terms of rewards, this is not true in currency trading.
What you need to learn is that to achieve currency trading success involves working smart, not hard and using a simple system that should take very little time to apply for profit.
You can achieve currency trading success in under an hour a day and make triple digit annual gains! Simplicity is the key to achieving currency trading success.
To repeat work smart not hard, don’t create work for yourself!
2. Trade with probability
Today, there is a huge industry that tells us predictive theories work and you can pick market bottoms and tops with scientific accuracy – no you can’t, so don’t try!
The other big myth is day trading.
You can try as hard as you want but the odds are not in your favour in day trading, as you will never have enough profits (or big enough profits) to cover your inevitable losses.
You need to trade longer term – this is where the probability of success is highest and the ONLY Way you will achieve currency trading success.
The lesson here is don’t spent time with theories that will never make you money they may be clever and cute but you wont make money.
3. Ego problems
This is a major problem and traders who have ego’s get killed.
The problem is, many traders think their smarter or bigger than the market and can impose their will on it and make money by being clever.
Of course, the reality is, the market is always right and only you can be wrong.
Many trades can’t accept this and the harder they try to beat the market by being clever the more they lose.
A trader with an ego or who thinks their smart will never achieve currency trading success.
4. Cut losses but also accept huge gains
This is a well known phrase and it’s true.
The easy part is cutting losses (simply set your stop before you enter your trade) the harder part is running your profits and this is why the majority of traders never achieve currency trading success.
No matter how hard they try they can never hold a profit. They either get stopped out or bank a profit early.
The ONLY way you will achieve big profits is by focusing on the long term and not the short term swings of equity against you.
It’s hard to sit on a profit for months or years but that’s what you have to do. Most traders can’t do this. They move stops too quickly or snatch profits.
If you want to achieve currency trading success you can’t bank early – You need to hold and focus on the long term.
5. Don’t chase your tail
Many traders have good systems, but fail to stick with them through periods of drawdown. So what do they do?
They override the systems signals or change it for new one. Big mistake!
It’s a well known fact that after a period of drawdown, profits occur (if the systems logic is soundly based) but many traders lack patience and want to force profits, this of course will never give them currency trading success.
If you have a sound system don’t “chase your tail” by constantly chopping and changing!
If you have confidence in your system then stick with it.
Focus on the reality of trading and adapt!
Many traders through lack of focus try and force gains try and be too clever, this is because they don’t really understand how the markets work and what is necessary to achieve currency trading success.
Learn the above and win big
To achieve currency trading success involves a simple approach, focusing on how and why markets move, developing a trading method that can be applied with discipline, to reach the currency trading success all traders’ desire, but very few achieve.
Remember
Concentrated focus means just that, focus on what is needed to win and concentrate in these areas.
Forget your ego, and pursue currency trading success with confidence in your ability and apply it with iron discipline and you WILL succeed!
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Old 12-08-09, 07:25 AM
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Hi there jemmy !

I agree on what you said that most traders who loose great sums of money took trading in a hurry even though they have insufficient forex trading experience and let me just add some more. They don't also have a carefully laid-out plan, they are emotionally attached to their trades and most of all they take things by chance or they trust luck is always on their side. They also lack patience.
I totally agree with you. Patience is very important in every business. You cannot expect to get rich overnight. Like they say constant correct practice makes perfect. The market evolves and we have to adapt to the changes too. The demand changes as well that's why we have to be in a lookout all the time. I think that some traders also lose money because they get addicted to trading. They do not consider it as a business but look at it as a form of gambling. Taking risks is necessary in trading but you have to know when enough is enough. You have to determine how much you are allowed to make to avoid losing too much.
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I think most of the people lose because lack of understanding and planning.
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Old 12-16-09, 09:50 AM
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I think most of the people lose because lack of understanding and planning.
I totally agree with you tictactalk. Of course in any business there is a chance of losing but then again we are not engaging into business to lose but to gain money. That is why learning and practice is needed before getting into any business to protect investments and not to give it away.
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The top 2 reasons traders fail are:
1.) Using too much leverage
2.) Not having a max daily loss limit

A few other tips:
1.) Risk/Reward ratio is more important that win %
2.) Don't add to losing trades
3.) Only apply your strategy to the market when the day is suitable for it
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Old 12-18-09, 07:20 AM
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The top 2 reasons traders fail are:
1.) Using too much leverage
2.) Not having a max daily loss limit

A few other tips:
1.) Risk/Reward ratio is more important that win %
2.) Don't add to losing trades
3.) Only apply your strategy to the market when the day is suitable for it

Thanks for sharing us these tips. We all appreciate it. Are you a trader too?
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Thanks for sharing us these tips. We all appreciate it. Are you a trader too?
yes. I trade on the floor of the CME with Richard Regan. Thats us in the pic on our avatar.
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Old 12-18-09, 10:30 PM
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That is great . How long have you been trading? I am a newbie and I wanna learn a few things, gathering all the education that I can get from traders
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